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It doesn't happen too often, but I sometimes I  receive complaints from site visitors about Bluejeans' Place.  So far, since Bluejeans' Place went live on the Internet in June 2000, I received exactly two (2) complaints, both full of stereotypes and unsubstantiated allegations.  Considering we served over 60,000 unique page views since January 25, 2003 alone, I think we're doing pretty well in satisfying our visitors' search for knowledge.

The e-mail exchange below includes the second complaint and my answer to it on April 27, 2003.  In the interest of furthering our mission of "Teaching Tolerance, Enriching Minds", I am reprinting that e-mail here in its entirety less my personal e-mail address.  Please excuse any typographical errors in the parts not in Comic Sans 10 point blue type--they were not written by me! 

Some of the complaint's wording sounds familiar to me.  Does anyone recognize some of the phrases like I do as parroting some talk radio stars?  It sure sounds familiar to me!

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From: Pat Shediack [<address removed>]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 6:17 PM
To: 'jim'
Cc: [<address removed>]
Subject: RE: Information Request

My response to your allegations is included below within your e-mail. 

Your gross stereotyping of me was offensive.  Your lack of research speaks volumes about you.  

At the same time, your complaint is the first one I received in over 60,000 unique page views by web site visitors since January 25, 2003 and only the second negative e-mail I have received since my site went live nearly three years ago.  Those figures speak volumes about your complaint. 

Pat Shediack

-----Original Message-----
From: jim [
mailto:jtj909@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 5:02 PM
To: Pat Shediack
Subject: Information Request


Request_Name - jim
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Request_Email - jtj909@aol.com
Request_Comments - do you get all bent out shape when liberals stereotype Whites, Ceo's, Republicans or Christians? Somehow I don't think you have the integrity to stand up to that kind of bigotry.

  -->  I have stood up against bigotry of all kinds all my life.  I was raised to see all people for what they are:  people of character, both good and bad.  I raised my children to be totally color-blind in all their dealings with people.

 -->  Quite obviously, you stereotyped me by failing to note that I am a white person, a Catholic and have worked in management positions since 1977, although not as a CEO. 

 -->  I criticized CEOs I worked for those times when I heard them lie straight to my face about layoffs not being planned, yet days later they handed out pink slips--a serious integrity issue for any CEO, board member or stockholder--and for anyone who has a shred of moral fiber in their being.  After seeing how companies de-humanize people in the workplace, I will continue to criticize any CEO who believes at any time that his workers are nothing more than "things" which lack human dignity.

 -->  I will always criticize those who stood silent or participated actively in the civil rights atrocities committed against African-Americans such as those which occurred under the Jim Crow laws or the Ku Klux Klan's terrorism.  Their silence or participation allowed that terrorism to go on for years without end.  No civilized person would stay silent about that terrorism against African-Americans.  No civilized person would approve of the silence of so many peers--including those who state they are Christians--who knew what was happening and who was committing it. 

-->  You fail to note in your allegation that I have relatives who are conservatives and vote Republican. 

__>  If you had bothered to research your comments prior to sending them to me, you would have learned my family's tree includes St Sharbel of Lebanon, so we are hardly anti-Christian.. 
 
__> Additionally, our Irish ancestors fled religious persecution by the British and our Lebanese ancestors fled the Ottoman Turks' religious wars.  Some of our ancestors died for their religion.  We have Catholics, Lutherans, Christians and a Jew in our family.  Religious bigotry is an anathema to my family and me.  You also fail to note where I stood up for bigotry against the Islamic people.  Your allegation I am a religious bigot is groundless and insults the memory of my ancestors who died for their faith.
 
When the rash of church burnings were going down and they were using racial profiling to claim whites had done it, where was the outcry from liberals? When the FBI found out that most of the church burnings were actually set by blacks, where was the apology from liberals?

  -->  Considering the long history of church burnings conducted at the instigation of whites including the one in Neshoba County MS which later resulted in three murders, some might believe the FBI's approach was a reasonable law enforcement position.  If you have a problem with that investigative approach, you should take it up with then-Director Freeh of the FBI or current FBI Director Mueller.  I have no authority over how the FBI investigates their cases.  If you knew anything about me, you would know I believe law enforcement operates from a starting position that everyone is no good or guilty except for law enforcement personnel until proven otherwise at trial.

-->  At the same time, can you quote me on a specific date or time where I said racial profiling is acceptable?  Don't bother searching for the answer--I'll give it to you--I never did.


I was a life long demcorat until the liberals and all their hypocrisy high jacked the once proud Dem party. Now you people have turn it into a joke.

-->  "You people"??? Who does your slur refer to--me?  Name the particular singular act are you attributing to me which detracted from the Democratic party?  Where and when did I commit this act?  What act are you specifically alleging I committed?


You believe discrimination is wrong, unless you're keeping a white male out of college, huh?

-->  Can you quote me on a specific date or time where I kept someone, especially a white male out of college?  If you knew ANYTHING at all about me, you would know I have been an advocate of everyone graduating from high school going on to get at least a two year, if not a four year degree.  Your allegation lacks fact.

All girl schools good, all male schools bad.

-->  Can you quote me on a specific date or time where I made such a statement?  Don't bother--I never have made such a ridiculous statement.  Gender-specific schools have their place in our society where they are designed to produce a certain educational result; racially segregated schools do not since they deny equal opportunity to resources and socialization with the community at large.

Blacks and women can have their own clubs but white men can't?

-->  Can you quote me on a specific date or time where I made such a statement?  Don't bother--I never have made such a ridiculous statement. 

WOmen can do what they want with their bodies, as long as their not posing nude? Women have all the choice but men should pay all the bills?

-->  Can you quote me on a specific date or time where I made such a statement?  Don't bother--I never have made such a ridiculous statement.  I maintain a consistent Seamless Garment approach to life:  Abortion is killing and so is the death penalty.  You can't be pro-life if you want to kill someone for any reason.


 Is there a single issue you liberals aren't complete hypocrites on?

-->  Your question lacks a need for a response since you have stereotyped me already without knowing a thing about me.

Submittal Date - 4/28/2003
Submittal Time - 2:02:13 PM

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If you're still following along this far, this guy sent me a response where you'll note he continues to flog me for things I have never done, but fails to respond to the facts presented to him.  In so many words--he's a blow-hard in denial!

From: Pat Shediack [ < address removed >]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:11 AM
To: Jtj909@aol.com
Cc:  [ < address removed >]
 
Subject: RE: Why good liberals go bad

 

Your complaint about liberal stereotyping is hypocritical on its face for the following reasons:

 

  1.  You stereotype me regardless of the facts presented to you.

 

  2.  You continue to accuse me of conducting, preaching or condoning stereotyping when in fact I have never done such a thing, a fact you were informed about yesterday.

 

  3.  You failed, when confronted with facts, to respond specifically to the questions I posed to you where you accused me of acts I have never committed.

 

Your complaint to me is nothing but yet another example of one human stereotyping another.  Your disregard for facts presented directly to you and your continued accusations about me undermine any argument you may present.

 

I refuse to argue incessantly with you. 

 

Further e-mails from you will be deleted without reading or response. 

 

Pat Shediack

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jtj909@aol.com [mailto:Jtj909@aol.com]
Sent:
Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:13 AM
To:
[ < address removed >]
Subject: Why good liberals go bad


So you say "Those figures speak volumes about your complaint". Isn't that the
same thing common Germans said about the Nazis? You still haven't answered my
main question which is.. why is it ok for liberals to whine about
stereotyping when they engage in  it at every turn? EVERY SINGLE TURN.

Is there any issue the liberals aren't hypocrites about?
Let's see

Liberals love free speech..as long as they agree with what's being said,
anything else they brand "hate speech" and call for it's banning and the
punishment of those who spoke.  Just ask John Rocker or Trent Lott about
their right to "free speech". Gee, where were the liberals then? How about
the ACLU? I guess free speech isn't for everyone, huh? 

Liberals hate discrimination... unless it's used to keep white boys out of
college.
Yeah that's smart make America better by keeping those who score the best on
entrance exams OUT of college. In this high tech world, that makes sense, huh?

Liberals hate racial profiling.. unless they're talking about CEO's, the
Police, Republicans, or Christians. How many black men do think they
interviewed when all those black churches were being burned down? Do you
think they looked at white skin heads first? Where was the liberal outcry
then? I guess it's ok to profile if your a liberal, huh?

Liberals think all women clubs and schools are good.. All male clubs and
schools are evil
All black clubs and schools good, all white clubs and schools evil. Diversity
means
"anyone but white men" As Clarance Thomas argued recently, why should black
schools be exempt from the laws that govern white schools? It's not about
race, it's about integrity, Using discrimination to fight discrimination is
like beating a child to teach him violence is wrong. What should I tell my
sons? Discrimination is wrong unless it happens to me? How can I look at
anyone as my equal when they keep telling me how different and disadvantaged
they are? Valid questions yet to be answered by liberals.

Tim Robbins thinks that people like the head of Baseball Hall of Fame
shouldn't use their positions in society to promote their personal agendas..
ONLY he and other high school drop out actors are entitled to that right.
Martin Sheen couldn't even get into college, he failed his entrance exams but
he knows more about the Iraq situation than Colin Powell? Get real.

Democrats say that anyone that makes 60k and owns stock is "rich". I live in
NYC and
I know many people who fit that bill, yet NONE of them are anywhere near
rich. How can they be when rent is 2 grand a month? Simple class warfare from
Libs. they keep saying "ENRON" but they never talk about Global Crossing, you
know, the company DNC Chairman Terry McCulliff sat on the board, invested
100k and turned that in 18 MILLION while the workers lost their pensions? I
guess it's ok to steal from the working class as long as your a Democrat,
huh?

I could go on for days about the hypocrisy you and yours embrace but it would
be a waste of time. You'll  just call me some name and dismiss my point,
that's the liberal way. I'm not a conservative either, I have never voted
Republican but I may be forced to as hysterical liberals with all their race
and class warfare just simply turned me and hundreds of thousands of others
off. The election of '04 is just the beginning. Unless Liberals develop some
sense of fairness they will be out of power of a long time. When you guys try
to get Martin Sheen to run for President, what kind of message does that
send?

Good luck in your campaign of ignorance and denial,
Jim

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